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Interview with Stephen Rushmore
Luxury Travel 360 met with Stephen Rushmore, president and founder of HVS and a pioneering expert on the valuation of hotels. HVS is a global company that has provided valuation services for more than 10,000 hotels in all 50 states and 60 countries. The company now offers consulting in a broad range of hospitality areas – from executive search to interior design to marketing. He had some dramatic things to say about the challenging economics of luxury hotel development.
LT360: What is the outlook for luxury hotel development in the current economy?
Rushmore: Developing any hotel is
a question of economics. The rule of thumb has long been that you need
an average daily rate of $1 for every $1,000 invested in a hotel. In
other words, if you spend $500,000 per room, you should be able to
charge $500 a night. Until about 10 years ago it made economic sense to
develop a freestanding luxury hotel. Then because of increasing costs
it became necessary to add a residential component to make the
economics work.
LT360: Why is that?
Rushmore: To compensate for the escalating cost of building a luxury hotel, you needed to sell condo units upfront.
LT360: Then why have the hotel at all?
Rushmore: The five-star hotel
brand will drive up the price of the condo. Take a condo that might be
able to sell at $2,000 a square foot; a branded hotel on the property
might make that $3,000.
LT360: How does the current real estate crisis impact that equation?
Rushmore: Now even the
residential component of luxury hotel development has become an
unknown. How are we going to get these 5-star hotels to work
economically? It will be difficult to build true 5-star hotels until
the residential component comes back.
LT360: Are there mitigating factors to that outlook?
Rushmore: There is an ego factor
that will offset some of these economic realities – people simply want
to build luxury hotels no matter the economics. Also, the low value of
the dollar and the low cost of capital will enable some projects to be
built. And there are companies like Tata, the Indian conglomerate that
wants its Taj hotels in major gateways and will pay what it takes to
get them. We are working on a hotel in downtown Manhattan that is
costing $2 million a room to build.
LT360: What does all this mean for existing luxury hotels?
Rushmore: For existing properties, the hotel industry offers an unbelievable opportunity.
LT360: What about the many new luxury brands and luxury hotels that have been announced? What is going to happen to them?
Rushmore: A lot of people want
to build but they won’t get financing. We are working with a developer
in Seattle with a great location who wants to build a Marriott. He
went to 30 lenders and got one deal; six months ago he would have
gotten 15.
LT360: Are resorts in a different situation?
Rushmore: Resorts are different.
There is a higher cost in developing them, but that is offset by even
more residential opportunities – such as timeshare. Also, there are
significant sources of revenue like spa, golf, and banquets and
weddings.
LT360: Speaking of spa, they have become a key element in the luxury product. Are they big moneymakers?
Rushmore: They are necessary but
the margin is only about 15 percent, which is eaten up pretty quickly
by taxes and other costs. But spas are more viable than room service,
which is a guaranteed money loser; and restaurants, which are usually
profitable only when they are leased to outside operators.
LT360: What will turn all of this around? Rushmore:
At some point – demand will become so strong it will become worthwhile
to build again. Emerging markets in India, China and Russia will
also contributed to that turnaround.
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